Wednesday, September 6, 2023

 David Udren interview, part 3, 3/25/77

After expressing some surprise that he is still being recorded...

.30  Alice's education.  Alice graduated from the West Philadelphia High School for Girls in February, 1925.

Alice's high school graduation picture, February, 1925

The West Philadelphia High School for Girls, 1925

1.00  Alice ran for US House of Representative, New York District 23, on the Communist Party ticket in 1936.  She polled over 10, 000 votes, almost 4% of the total vote count.  Dave notes that she was "always trying to help people". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936_United_States_House_of_Representatives_elections

After the election, Alice was given a vacation at a resort in the Catskills to recover; she took two-year-old Sharon with her. 

                 Shary, ca. 1935

The August 31, 1937 edition of The Daily Worker (a newspaper founded in 1924 in Chicago, and published in New York after 1927, founded by communists, socialists, union leaders and other activists) features an article documenting a Communist Party-led protest against the Borden Milk Company, in response to a one-cent increase in the price of milk, with Alice addressing the assembled protesters (https://archive.org/details/per_daily-worker_daily-worker_1937-08-31_14_208/page/4/mode/2up?q=alice+udren) Ultimately, Borden reduced the price of milk by 2.5 cents per quart (to 14.5 cents per quart for Grade A milk), as reported in the New York Times on March 18, 1939. (https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1939/03/18/107122636.pdf?pdf_redirect=true&ip=0)

Shary recalls being pushed in her perambulator by Alice, as she accompanied her mother on her protest activities.  She remembers sitting in the stroller, with contraband leaflets buried around her--to avoid potential trouble with the police. 

In the April 3, 1940 Daily Worker, Alice is listed as a speaker at a rally for peace. (https://archive.org/details/per_daily-worker_daily-worker_1940-04-03_17_81/page/n3/mode/2up?q=alice+udren)


Dave, Blanche, Alice and Sharon, mid-1940s

3.50  Dave and Alice's daughters: 

Blanche Udren Fischberg, b. New York City, June, 27,1927; d. Boston, MA, February 15, 1966

Married Bruce Fischberg, December 7, 1953

Children: Beth Fischberg, October 29, 1955

                Eve Fischberg, December 15, 1957

                Jane Fischberg, August 15, 1960

                Daniel Fischberg, March 5, 1962


Sharon Udren Chaiklin, b. New York City, March 6, 1934

Married Harris Chaiklin, June 5, 1955

Children: Seth Chaiklin, February 22, 1956

                Matthew Chaiklin, December 24, 1957

                Martha Chaiklin, August 9, 1960

                Nina Chaiklin, March 19, 1962

Blanche graduated from The High School of Music and Art (now known as the Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School of Music and Art and the Performing Arts) in 1942. 

Blanche's high school graduation picture, age 15

Blanche received her Bachelor's degree from Sarah Lawrence College, Bronxville, NY, in 1946.  Her majors were epistemology and mathematics.

Blanche's college graduation picture, age 19

Sharon graduated from  The Bronx High School of Science in 1951.

Sharon (age 17) and Blanche (age 24) preparing to leave on a boat for Europe, following Sharon's high school graduation in 1951. 

Sharon graduated from Sarah Lawrence College in 1955.  Her majors were social work and dance. 
Sharon's college graduation picture, age 21

5.00  Dave states that Alice went to work at Steinberg's kosher dairy restaurant in the late 1940's, where she ultimately worked as the office manager.  Steinberg's was a beloved fixture on the upper west side of New York, frequented by many people seeking a delicious meal at a modest price.  
It was a favorite of Isaac Bashevis Singer, the Nobel-prize winning Yiddish writer, a life-long vegetarian (https://www.westsiderag.com/2022/09/07/isaac-bashevis-singer-boulevard-like-its-namesake-at-the-center-of-the-upper-west-side) 
Shary recalls her mother being particularly excited when Suki Schorer, the ballet dancer,  would visit Steinberg's for a meal.  Suki Schorer danced with the New York City Ballet from 1959 to 1972.  She joined at the invitation of George Balanchine, becoming a principal dancer in 1968.  She remains a beloved master teacher of ballet.

  

Suki Schorer as Dewdrop in the New York City Ballet production of The Nutcracker, 1969

https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/411c69f0-a6ff-0131-2db3-58d385a7b928



Entrance to Steinberg's Dairy Restaurant, Photo by Samuel H. Gottscho, 1938 Image via Museum of the City of New York 


Steinberg's Restaurant, NYC, NY Photo by Samuel H. Gottscho, 1938 Image via Museum of the City of New York 
Daily menu from Steinberg's, August 17, 1941 (https://menus.nypl.org/menu_pages/60592/explore)

Dave notes that Alice's "other activities petered out" at this time.  He references the rise in "McCarthyism" in the late 1940's; Senator Joseph McCarthy (in the Senate from 1948-1957) alleged that numerous communists and Soviet spies and sympathizers had infiltrated the United States federal government, the film industry, the universities and elsewhere.  

Documents obtained from the United Parents file in the Archives of the City of New York indicate that Alice was a Manhattan borough Vice-President with United Parents in 1938. Although Alice ran for the U.S. House of Representatives on the Communist Party ticket in 1936, prior to or contemporaneously with her involvement with United Parents, by 1941 she was no longer associated with United Parents and the United Parents group actively disavowed Alice's connection with the group, specifically because of her association with the Communist Party.  

 The Special Committee on Un-American Activities (which later evolved into the House Committee on Un-American Activities, popularly known as HUAC) was created in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities on the part of private citizens, public employees, and those organizations suspected of having fascist or communist ties.   Alice is listed as a person of interest in the proceedings of the HUAC Investigation of Communist activities in the New York City area from 1953 (https://archive.org/details/investigationofc0555unit/page/1412/mode/2up?q=alice+udren).

5.31 Dave states that Alice was active in civic affairs through Shary's junior high years, serving on the New York State Women's commission in 1946-47. Shary recalls that Alice was active in the Manhattan borough Parent-Teacher Association.
6.16 Alice had little time to devote to any other interests, although Dave remembers enjoying attending plays and concerts together.

Shary recalls regularly attending concerts at Lewisohn Stadium, of the City College of New York. Built in 1915, many concerts and other cultural events were hosted there from 1918 until 1966. The entry fee was only 25 cents, which allowed New Yorkers of modest means to enjoy great performances. Shary remembers seeing "Peter and the Wolf" at Lewisohn when she was eight or nine years old, as well as seeing ballet performed there. She often went ahead of her parents to wait in line for entry. Leonard Bernstein conducted the New York Philharmonic at Lewisohn on numerous occasions, including one concert featuring the great singer Marian Anderson .

Marian Anderson and Leonard Bernstein at Lewisohn Stadium, 1947 (Ruth Orkin, from the International Center for Photography:https://www.icp.org/browse/archive/objects/marian-anderson-and-leonard-bernstein-lewisohn-stadium


Audience at Lewisohn Stadium, 1942 (from the Library of Congress:https://www.loc.gov/item/2017834326/

Alice played the piano when they were first married--a favorite piece was the Habanera from the opera Carmen .
8.45 Blanche began playing the piano at a young age; Dave recalls a concert of Mozart's music Blanche performed at age seven. Dave remembers constructing something so that she could be lifted up closer to the music to see, since she was so little. He expresses concern that this early emphasis on performance was "too much" and wasn't good for her.
                         Blanche, age four, with her first piano teacher, Lev Terdgamon [sp?], March, 1932

Alice also enjoyed playing popular dance music. Shary remembers that the family especially enjoyed when Alice played the Black Bottom (popular in the late 1920's) , and they would cut the rug!

11.15  In  the summer of 1945, when Blanche was eighteen, The Kenyon Review published a lengthy response Blanche wrote regarding a review of the English translation of Road to the Ocean (Leonid Leonov, 1944) that had appeared in the journal earlier that year.  The level of sophistication of her  analysis is remarkable, particularly for an eighteen-year-old writer. 

16.30  Dave mentions a book that he has recently read, A Man Called Intrepid: The Incredible True Story of the Master Spy Who Helped Win WWII.  This book, an account of the life and times of William Stephenson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stephenson), had been a best-seller when it was published the previous year (1976).   Dave goes into extensive detail about the contents of the book and how the course of history can be altered by the "strength, courage and brilliance of mind" of a single person. 

26.46 When asked his personal philosophy, Dave states that it is "a question of survival and not-survival...the more you try to draw a blueprint for yourself, the more you will be disappointed...[one must] hold on and live from day to day".

33.10  Shary asks, "What would you have done [that you didn't do in your life]?".  Dave replies, "I don't know--something cultural--teaching, writing, something of that sort...".

38.00 Shary asks, "What makes you think that your life isn't interesting?".  Dave responds, "I  feel that I never attained anything that I really wanted".   He goes on to acknowledge, "I had a daughter like you--that's an achievement in itself...and four lovely grandchildren here -[Shary's four children]-and four in another area [Blanche's four children--Blanche had died eleven years before this recording was made]...I feel disappointed in my personal achievement...but I value what I have most dearly."

Alice and Dave, early 1960's
Dave with Nina, Matthew and Martha Chaiklin, 1963
Dave with Daniel Fischberg, Nina Chaiklin, Martha Chaiklin and Jane Fischberg, 1964
Dave with Beth Fischberg, Eve Fischberg, Seth Chaiklin and Matthew Chaiklin, 1961


Dave singing to Noah Staley, his first great-grandchild (son of Eve Fischberg and Steven Staley), 1988








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